And to the person who got it back to the CS we know and love, A) Thank you and B) WHERE IN THE BLUE HELL WERE YOU IN 2001?!!?

I do have one episode of Play Your Cards Right in my collection, aside from the couples and the "sing along with Bruce" cathcphrases it seemed pretty much the same to me.

It's a pretty open secret that Ludden was...let's say "not beloved' by most of the people who worked around him at ANY level.

Why did Ludden leave (or get the boot from) Liar's Club? It was syndicated, so he could have done P+ at the same time.

If I remember what I learned in Game Show 101 correctly; Liar's Club was cancelled in or around September 1978, freeing him to do P+.

It was Bill Armstrong that got axed from Liar's.

LC aired through the 1978-79 season, as per the EOTVGS. THey could have finished taping LC for the 1978-79 season before tapings of P+ began in 12/78, as syndicated shows in those days were often finished taping for the season before the NATPE convention was held.

Ooops! Thanks for the correction. Why did they ax Bill Armstrong? Just because Ludden became available?

There seemed to be somewhat of a relaunch of that show. When it started in syndication 20th Century-Fox Television distributed it and it seemed to be on very few stations. Channel 20 in Detroit had it. When AL took over, it was distributed by Sandy Frank and had moved from Channel 20 to 50 (which was considered an upgrade.) In NY, the Armstrong eps were on WOR and the Luddens on WCBS.

Though Allen may not have been in demand, he may have been perceived as more of a "name" than Bill Armstrong. I'm pretty sure more stations aired the Ludden version.

I honestly don't remember the Luddens being on WCBS. Doesn't mean it didn't happen (the show was the logical successor to the departing To Tell the Truth, but I don't remember it airing there. Might have been either 9 a.m. or late at night.

I can't find it on the old alt.tv.game-shows list, but I seem to remember someone mentioning Armstrong suing after being removed as host; don't know what came of it (if my memory's even right).

Curt, you are correct about the time slot. LC did succeed TTTT on Channel 2 on 11/14/77, both shows sharing the 9-10 hour with a local talk show with Jeanne Parr. That did not last long. In mid-January of 78, a Jim Nabors talk show succeeded both shows. Nabors lasted until July 78 and was replaced until September with a combo of "The New Truth or Consequences" and the Canadian "Celebrity Cooks" with Bruno Gerussi. Source: my trusty TV Guide collection.

I normally bow to your knowledge, but ISTR Armstrong served as EP or producer on this show, and as announcer on Boardman's version. If given the choice of himself or Allen Ludden, who would you pick?

Getting back to Password Plus, I think Tom Kennedy does a lousy job. He constantly slouches over the podium, and his fake sincerity is blatantly obvious. Plus, he apparently doesn't know the rules at all. And the constant kissing up to Allen and Betty is nauseating.

But otherwise he's doing great!

I think Bert Convy is proving why he had a "Mendoza line" named after him. On SP he is easily confused, and doesn't seem to have much of a grip on the game.
But I digress.......

Tyshaun

Gawd, I'd love to see a restaurant review from you:

The waiter was rude, he messed up the drink order, the food was served an hour after we ordered and was ice cold...The serving plates hadn't been washed, the steak was rancid and the apple cobbler still had fresh worms in it!

Otherwise, I give it 4 stars.

tvwxman, seeing as you have no sense of humor, I'll be sure to POINT OUT my jokes in the future.

Relax. I was continuing your humorous thread. Stick to jokes about Pricing games on the moon.

This was supposed to be another "joke"?

This comedy thing isn't working for you. I hope you still have a day job. Further, I hope it takes up a lot of your potential posting time.

Hey clemon, I hear someone eBay is auctioning off a piece of toilet paper used by Jim Lange. Why don't you hurry on over there and place your bid?

Dude, yer lame even when yer trying to be insulting.

Let me give you some free advice: Stop now before you say something that gets you in trouble. Frankly, I could give two tin ones whether you do or not, but you might.

Thanks for the unsolicited advice. If I get banned, I get banned. I've tried to contribute to these discussions and perhaps have a sense of humor, and I just get a lot of crap in return. So go on and ban me.

What sense of humor?

Are you challenging the mods to do this?
$20 on Matt Ottinger, please.

Give me $40 on Zink. :)

Doug

I bet $20 on myself.

- Pete Rose

Someone put me down for $5 on Carol Wayne.

50 on Eric Newhouse.

Wait, what board am I on again?

The sad thing is that some people would actually BID on it.

Hang on, I'm gonna blow my nose, let it dry and then try to sell the tissue on eBay, claiming it's Lange NTT tourney winner Les Gould's "lucky Kleenex" that he kept on his podium...

Chuck Donegan (The Enterprising "Chuckie Baby")

I'll bet $200 on Patrick Wayne at 55:1........OOPS.......pardon me, this isn't the revival of Celebrity Sweepstakes.....my bad. :-P

[ducks and gets the hell outta dodge]

Anywho, I think TK was a better fit than the Rayburn, Marshall, and some of the others mentioned in this thread. If Ludden couldn't do it, then TK was the best fit for it, IMO.

Ahem...back on the topic (somewhat), I wondered what you all thought of the one day in 1982 when Jack Narz hosted part of a PW+ episode...

I thought it was a good thing Tom gave his partner a chance at the puzzle after he missed it on the 5th clue. Watch closely - it appears Jack wasn't aware of that rule.

I'd like to see more of that week...hopefully GSN will keep it on the schedule long enough!

Now, for the next 20 years you have to vehemently deny ever placing that bet, end up write a book saying you DID in fact place the bet and your confession after all of those years should negate everything you bad have ever done/said…and you should be allowed in the Walk...er, Hall of Fame.