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pyrawoman
Here is the Prof's latest take on the Pyramid situation:
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Still No Word from Sony

Is it alive or is it dead? We still don't know as of today and if I were a wagering man, which I am not, I would place a conservative bet Pyramid is not back in the fall but Yogi Berra's old cliche of "it ain't over 'til it's over" still applies."
Believe me when I tell you, whether they liked it or not---and many of them probably were irritated with their e-mail boxes being flooded and their telephones ringing profusely this week---station executives and higher-ups at Sony Pictures Television have heard you. Candidly, I have been astounded at what appears to be a flood of efforts on your part to keep Pyramid on the air.
Do not misinterpret Donny Osmond's open call to stop the e-mails and the phone calls as issued Wednesday morning on his website. Whether the game returns, the three Viacom stations in Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Boston do intend to drop the show in the fall and without clearances in those markets, the show cannot continue. What inflamed some insiders is Donny's initial letter on his website Sunday, which stated in the second paragraph: "Viacom just pulled Pyramid off their stations!" He should have added three words after a comma, "effective in August." Obviously, that has led to consternation in the executive wings of both Sony and Viacom because of some of the calls and e-mails they are receiving.
Having worked in local television for many years and also having studied network and syndicated television for nearly 40 years, I can tell you the likely scenario: one of the three top dogs at SPT asked Donny to call off the dogs, except for snail mail. People at Viacom stations are ticked off at having the blame put on them. Their people have talked to Sony's people, etc., etc. Somebody at Sony contacted Donny and said, in so many words, "You've got to stop all of this, Donny." That means you have been heard, even if the show does not return.
Let me make something abundantly clear. We wouldn't be in this crossfire if Pyramid was doing a 3 rating, rather than a low 2. Yet, I remain astounded how syndicators can prepare trade publications declaring a show with a 1.5 season average, namely The Ellen DeGeneres Show, a hit and gain an early second-season renewal and a game show with a loyal following and a 2.3 season-to-date is considered a candidate for the scrap heap.
I can tell you Viacom has not done a great deal to help this show even with the stations which have aired it. Take WSBK, for example. Pyramid airs in Boston at 8 o'clock in the morning, which is drive time to work and school, and opposite the morning news/interview shows. That's certainly intuitive scheduling. A clearance is a clearance but KCAL in Los Angeles is not one of the stronger stations in that market.
We can throw out the idea that Sony is going to find room for its Pat Croce half-hour or a Life and Style hour-long magazine show by abandoning Pyramid. Neither of them have lit a fire under station managers at NATPE.
So what we are left with are three key things: 1) energetic and righteously angry viewers who are furious over what they interpret as an injustice to a quality show; 2) television stations in major cities who are feeling the wrath of game show fans who feel they are again having the equivalent of regurgitation dumped on their boots; and 3) still no announcement from Sony Pictures Television.
I find two interesting things in play here: one, an enormous amount of publicity generated for what looks to be four solid weeks of February sweep themes on Pyramid and at least one last-gasp bump on a popular NBC sitcom.
The other: unquestionably, Donny Osmond realizes he made the right decision two years ago to make the transition to a game show emcee's role. You may remember, the pilots for Pyramid were actually done in January 2001 with an idea of going to syndication that fall. The decision was delayed because Osmond deliberated on whether the career move was the right one for him.
Whether Pyramid returns, Osmond has made the grade splendidly and deserves a chance with another show if this one bites the dust. He has also seen game show fans are intensely loyal to the shows and emcees they make appointments with every day. I am unabashedly proud of the outpouring I have seen from you folks in the last few days. No doubt, Donny is overwhelmed and appreciative as well, even if he has had to call off the dogs.

http://tvgameshows.net/column.htm

Donny Calls Off Online, Phone Pyramid Efforts
Someone at Viacom and/or Sony Pictures Television got the message or became fed up with the message.
Wednesday morning, Pyramid host Donny Osmond called off a telephone and e-mail campaign to save Pyramid, in particular phone calls and e-mails targeted at executives at Viacom stations in three major cities for passing on a third season of the show and top syndication executives at Sony Pictures Television.
Osmond retracted an earlier statement blaming Viacom executives as the culprits for killing a third season of Pyramid. He said some people misinterpreted his previous remarks as a suggestion Pyramid is going off immediately.
"I have also been informed that everyone at Sony is doing all that they can do to come back for a third season," continued Osmond.
The 46-year-old emcee thanked viewers earlier this week for what appeared to be a barrage of e-mails and phone calls to Viacom stations Monday in the three cities which have pulled the show for season three.
TVgameshows.net readers have e-mailed responses from Viacom station personnel in Philadelphia and Los Angeles, suggesting their stations have not dropped the show. That statement is only partially true. WSBK/Boston, KYW/Philadelphia and KCAL/Los Angeles all plan to drop the show after August, which has the show in peril for a third season, pending alternate clearances.
Ironically, two other talk/variety shows Sony is attempting to push at the current NATPE programming convention have failed to generate enthusiasm among stations.
In another open letter on his Donny.com website today, Osmond wrote: "I appreciate all the support that you have shown and thank you for letting your local stations as well as the executives at Viacom and Sony know that you care about Pyramid and want to see it continue in the future. You definitely rallied!
"Having said that, I need to ask that you refrain from telephoning the executives at Sony and Viacom and for those of you who got a hold of the direct email addresses for those executives, they have asked that we ask you to cease contacting them via email."
Osmond is still encouraging a snail mail campaign to Sony in an effort to save the show at this address:

Sony
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232


Donny, Pyramid Visit Friends Feb. 5
Pyramid Loaded with Stars in February

http://tvgameshows.net/
Modor
QUOTE (pyrawoman @ Jan 21 2004, 08:03 PM)
Here is the Prof's latest take on the Pyramid situation:
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You know, you could have left that story link in, and it would have had the same effect. We know your position by now.
zachhoran

Relax my dear, we've already heard this.
chris319
We prefer links over full excerpts.
pyrawoman
Latest Pyramid News from tvgameshows.net and Donny Osmond:
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Sony Still Won't Say But Pyramid Appears Dead
Sony Pictures Television still had not issued a definite announcement as of Thursday morning but Pyramid host Donny Osmond appeared to be resigned to cancellation on his website.
"I'm sure everyone is a bit confused. Join the club," wrote Osmond. "Sony was telling me and my representatives that they were doing all they could to bring the show back for a third season; however, you've all seen the emails coming in from programming directors around the country confirming that Pyramid has been cancelled and will not be back for season three."
In fact, a number of TVgameshows.net readers have forwarded online responses from Tony Munoz, programming administrator for KCBS/KCAL in Los Angeles: "Thank you for interest in Pyramid. KCAL 9 will continue to air Pyramid through the fall season. Sony Pictures Television has decided to discontinue production on the show for next season."
As recently as Sunday, SPT executive vice president John Weiser, writing on Donny.com, encouraged viewers to contact local stations to push for the show's continuation.
Osmond told TVgameshows.net's Steve Beverly in a Wednesday night e-mail: "It's unfortunate that a good quality (show) is going to bite the dust. I have been in show business for over 40 years and I'm sure that another project is just around the corner."
An onslaught of Pyramid fans, including some from the U.K., barraged Sony, Viacom-owned stations and other local stations throughout the country with e-mails earlier this week, demanding the show's extension for a third season.
Pyramid and Osmond fan Jill Emmert said Wednesday: "It has been very frustrating to be a fan of Donny Osmond over the last few days as we have tried to help him without making a nuisance of ourselves."
Osmond told his website readers Thursday morning: "It looks like we won't be back, but I'll let you know as soon as I know something."
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Bottom line is that it ain't over 'til it's over. So here are the three executives to snail mail, and the address for them. They won't ignore the fans if enough of them write to them!

Steve Mosko, President, Sony Pictures
Russ Krasnoff, President of Programming, Sony Pictures
John Weiser, Executive Vice-President

10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA
90232
Brandon Brooks
QUOTE (pyrawoman @ Jan 23 2004, 09:00 PM)
Latest Pyramid News from tvgameshows.net and Donny Osmond:
(snipped)

Do you listen a single thing anyone says? Why can you not provide a link?
Don Howard
QUOTE (Brandon Brooks @ Jan 23 2004, 09:14 PM)
QUOTE (pyrawoman @ Jan 23 2004, 09:00 PM)
Latest Pyramid News from tvgameshows.net and Donny Osmond:
(snipped)

Do you listen a single thing anyone says? Why can you not provide a link?

I do believe this chick is suffering from PJTP=Posting Just To Post
DrJWJustice
QUOTE (Brandon Brooks @ Jan 23 2004, 09:14 PM)
QUOTE (pyrawoman @ Jan 23 2004, 09:00 PM)
Latest Pyramid News from tvgameshows.net and Donny Osmond:
(snipped)

Do you listen a single thing anyone says? Why can you not provide a link?

I'll be a bit kinder and gentler in my remark -- for those of us who like to quote, it's a lot easier to do when we don't have to wade through an entire article of text. Just a quick intro an a URL will usually suffice, and the nice part is that we still get access to the story. :-)
Modor
Did you not just see what the moderator posted in the thread above yours?

I guess you didn't. Answered my own question...but I'd relish seeing this show cancelled--just to shut up all you obsessives.
DrJWJustice
QUOTE (Dsmith @ Jan 24 2004, 02:47 AM)
Did you not just see what the moderator posted in the thread above yours?

I guess you didn't. Answered my own question...but I'd relish seeing this show cancelled--just to shut up all you obsessives.

You know, after my recent spat with a few others regarding GSN's upcoming changes (and I'll readily admit I didn't help things with my med-influenced tirade), I've come to notice that there is a select group on here who are getting downright vicious with regard to their postings on the kind of etiquette they'd like to see in here.

Isn't that getting away from the more civil newsgroup we wanted when we broke away from ATGS? Didn't the moderators state that they'd simply remove the offending posts, rather than allow a bunch of flaming to go on in here, or am I mistaken about this? If I am mistaken, would someone in charge of this group please correct me?

Why do I complain? Because the vicious telling people what to do very seldom works. It didn't work in ATGS, and there's no reason to expect that it will work here, either. The kind of posters like the one who started this thread are going to do whatever they want unless a moderator puts the brakes on them. Some people even do it just TO get a rise out of those who seem to enjoy criticizing other posters or telling them what to do. Hell, I'll even admit that some of the barbs aimed my way made me want to keep it up for the sheer evil pleasure of pissing off someone. May I recommend to the group that we try a little revese psychology instead of eating our children, so to speak?
Don Howard
QUOTE (DrJWJustice @ Jan 24 2004, 04:59 PM)
May I recommend to the group that we try a little reverse psychology instead of eating our children, so to speak?

Eating our children? I'm never going over to your house for dinner.
DrJWJustice
QUOTE (Don Howard @ Jan 24 2004, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE (DrJWJustice @ Jan 24 2004, 04:59 PM)
May I recommend to the group that we try a little reverse psychology instead of eating our children, so to speak?

Eating our children? I'm never going over to your house for dinner.

Just throw a little Tobasco sauce on them before taking your first bite. ;-) LOL
Matt Ottinger
Mmm...just like chicken.

As to Doctor J's point, I appreciate it, but honestly there's just a limit to the amount of policing Chris and I want to do, plus there's also a point at which "policing" becomes "censorship". Would I prefer it if people didn't appoint themselves hall monitors? Heck, yeah. However it's usually not until the conversations disintegrate into back-and-forth sniping that we step in, and my impression is that pyrawoman could not possibly care less what the rest of you think about her posting style. Doc's right, your posts criticizing her serve no purpose whatsoever.

Also, make no mistake, while 100% civility is certainly a noble goal, it is nearly impossible to achieve on the internet and it is definitely not *the* reason we left Usenet. Go back there and visit today -- or any day -- and the reason we left is abundantly clear. In that regard, given our ability to simply erase any truly offensive material, we have been 100% successful. However, we realize that there's a difference between trolls and the merely cranky, and we can't stop people from being cranky.

I'll say it again: Anybody taking this forum more seriously than Chris and I do are taking it way, way too seriously. It's pixels on a screen. Relax.
clemon79
QUOTE (Matt Ottinger @ Jan 24 2004, 10:22 PM)
and my impression is that pyrawoman could not possibly care less what the rest of you think about her posting style.

That said, since she's attempting to urge people into taking action, she _should_ care. OTOH, her most vocal objectors seem to be those who aren't in favor of Pyramid coming back anyhow, so she may see nothing to be gained by placating them.

I agree with Matt. Let it go, folks. There are far worse things in the world than a grassroots campaign to save a TV show, whether or not you feel it should be saved.
zachhoran
QUOTE (clemon79 @ Jan 25 2004, 02:00 AM)


I agree with Matt. Let it go, folks. There are far worse things in the world than a grassroots campaign to save a TV show, whether or not you feel it should be saved.

It could be a grassroots campaign to get the band behind the classic "Midnight Confessions", "Bella Linda", and "Sooner or Later" into the ROck and Roll Hall of Fame.

GS Warehouse
QUOTE (zachhoran @ Jan 25 2004, 09:55 AM)
It could be a grassroots campaign to get the band behind the classic "Midnight Confessions", "Bella Linda", and "Sooner or Later" into the ROck and Roll Hall of Fame.

[throws grass at Zach] How dare you forget "Temptation Eyes"?
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