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GS Warehouse
The fifties were so long ago that very few TV stars from that decade were still alive today. I was surprised that Art Carney, best known to our parents and grandparents as Ed Norton from The Honeymooners, was one from them ...

...at least until just now. Farewell, Norton.

ObGameShows: Jackie Gleason had quite a career, even though he gave us You're in the Picture.
PeterMarshallFan
Art did appear on WML? at least once and I think he also did TTTT...

RIP Art Carney
zachhoran
QUOTE (GS Warehouse @ Nov 11 2003, 05:36 PM)
The fifties were so long ago that very few TV stars from that decade were still alive today. I was surprised that Art Carney, best known to our parents and grandparents as Ed Norton from The Honeymooners, was one from them ...

...at least until just now. Farewell, Norton.

ObGameShows: Jackie Gleason had quite a career, even though he gave us You're in the Picture.

Only Joyce Randolph of the quartet of Honeymooners is still with us(Audrey Meadows died in 1996, and Jackie Gleason died in 1987). RIP, Art Carney. Say hi to Jackie for us.

whewfan
The Honeymooners did have two episodes game show related.

Beat the Clock- Ralph and Ed appear on Beat the Clock with Bud Collyer. The funniest moment on this show was the foursome rehearsing a BTC stunt. Much ad-libbing was done throughout the show because the stunt, which involved hitting a balloon, stacking cups and saucers, and catching lemons coming down a conveyor belt, proved to be too complicated to stick with the script. Similar ad-libbing was done when Alice couldn't fill a cup with whipped cream, getting Reddi Whip all over Gleason.

The $99,000 Answer- An obvious nod to the $64k Question, Ralph preps for the game, which the category is music. Ed Norton helps by playing the piano, but Norton insists on playing "Pop Goes the Weasel" before every song. Ralph knows the answers to all the music questions, but fails to come up with the author of the song Ed kept playing.... Pop Goes the Weasel!
Stevek83
Actually, it was "Swanee River", not "Pop Goes The Weasel"
maryclaire
QUOTE (PeterMarshallFan @ Nov 11 2003, 05:56 PM)
Art did appear on WML? at least once and I think he also did TTTT...

RIP Art Carney


He was on WML...they just showed his MG appearance about a month or so ago....he did a fantastic, hilarious John Daly impersonation. Indeed RIP
GS Warehouse
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QUOTE (whewfan @ Nov 11 2003, 07:36 PM)
The $99,000 Answer- An obvious nod to the $64k Question, Ralph preps for the game, which the category is music. Ed Norton helps by playing the piano, but Norton insists on playing "Swanee River" before every song. Ralph knows the answers to all the music questions, but fails to come up with the author of the song Ed kept playing.... Swanee River!


This whole episode was spoofed in a "Pinky & the Brain" segment on Animaniacs, when Brain appeared on "Gyparody!", attempting to win $99,000. He nailed every answer until Final Gyparody, where he met his match: This classic TV character is known for saying "Bang! Zoom! Right in the kisser!" Brain, who continuously ignored Pinky's impressions of Ralphie-boy throughout the cartoon, came up blank!

If only they did "$10,000 Pile'o'Mud"...
tvrandywest
QUOTE (whewfan @ Nov 11 2003, 07:36 PM)
Beat the Clock- Ralph and Ed appear on Beat the Clock with Bud Collyer. The funniest moment on this show was the foursome rehearsing a BTC stunt. Much ad-libbing was done throughout the show because the stunt, which involved hitting a balloon, stacking cups and saucers, and catching lemons coming down a conveyor belt, proved to be too complicated to stick with the script. Similar ad-libbing was done when Alice couldn't fill a cup with whipped cream, getting Reddi Whip all over Gleason.

It was not by accident that the Honeymooners ended up filming an episode on the BTC set. Phil Rossi's dad Frank Wayne worked BTC; Phil spent many days on the set as a kid. Phil says that for a time the two shows were neighbors - one at what's now the Ed Sullivan Theatre, and the other at the theater on the adjacent side street (I'm too lazy to look up the studio number and address - perhaps Bricon can add that info from his encyclopedic knowledge of the old NY theaters). As Phil remembers it, they shared an alley.

Phil recalls that Gleason would often visit BTC on his breaks. He enjoyed watching the rehearsals and was said to have been interested in the ideas for physical comedy that the stunts generated for him. After many visits he finally asked if he could have an episode of the Honeymooners which included their appearance on BTC.

It was the only location outside of their own Honeymooners studio that was at all practical because Gleason was using the "Electronicam" system of simultaneous film and video that he helped develop with the DuMonttechnicians. The cameras were unique and heavy monsters that couldn't easily be taken anywhere further than the adjacent theater.

And the rest is history ;-)


Randy
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Don Howard
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The $99,000 Answer


I remember that. Very funny show as they all were. I do forget who it
was who played the emcee. Anyone remember?
chris319
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the two shows were neighbors - one at what's now the Ed Sullivan Theatre, and the other at the theater on the adjacent side street (I'm too lazy to look up the studio number and address

That would be studio 52, later renamed studio 54 (on 54th Street) when it became a popular disco.

My recollection is that the BTC episode was not one of the 39 Electronicam episodes but rather one of the CBS kines or "lost episodes". My hunch is that they were both done in the same theater and they merely schlepped the BTC set (a couple of walls and curtains) to the Gleason theater, as part of the story was in the Kramden apartment and part on the BTC set.
chris319
QUOTE (Don Howard @ Nov 11 2003, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE
The $99,000 Answer


I remember that. Very funny show as they all were. I do forget who it
was who played the emcee. Anyone remember?

Tic Tac Dough emcee Jay Jackson.
Matt Ottinger
QUOTE (chris319 @ Nov 11 2003, 11:15 PM)
QUOTE (Don Howard @ Nov 11 2003, 06:37 PM)
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The $99,000 Answer


I remember that. Very funny show as they all were. I do forget who it
was who played the emcee. Anyone remember?

Tic Tac Dough emcee Jay Jackson.

Many collectors have an episode of Tic Tac Dough that Jackson hosted. He also took over the reins for Twenty Questions somewhere into its run.

Also, Art Carney's game show credits include WML? Mystery Guest appearances in both the CBS and syndie versions, Personality with Larry Blyden and a memorable IGAS episode where he filled in for Bill Cullen and the guests were baseball greats including Cy Young. This was one of the first cigarette-sponsored IGAS shows that GSN aired under their "Lost Episodes" umbrella just before the Dark Period.
brianhenke
TV Land has announced that all of the Classic 39 will air starting Friday at 8 p.m. for 19 1/2 hours. (Incidentally, all the episodes have just been released on DVD.)

$99,000 Answer will air Saturday morning at 4:30 a.m.

Brian

100 plus 100 equals 600?

We want some more pro wrestling (STILL) and NASCAR questions (at least Pyramid had a Jeff Gordon category today)!

cweaver
QUOTE (whewfan @ Nov 11 2003, 07:36 PM)
Beat the Clock- Ralph and Ed appear on Beat the Clock with Bud Collyer. The funniest moment on this show was the foursome rehearsing a BTC stunt.

IIRC they used the actual clock from "Beat the Clock"...or a reasonable fascimile, right down to the Sylvania logo.
cweaver
QUOTE (Stevek83 @ Nov 11 2003, 08:12 PM)
Actually, it was "Swanee River", not "Pop Goes The Weasel"

...and Ralph was asked who wrote "Swanee River." After stammering a bit ("Homina homina homina...") he finally squeaks out "Ed Norton?!" (Correct answer: Stephen Foster.)

Don't forget Carney's very obvious game show tie: he played a radio announcer in the 1940 Jimmy Stewart film "Pot O' Gold," which is set around a radio game show. It was Carney's first major film role.
JohnXXVII
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Also, Art Carney's game show credits include ..... a memorable IGAS episode where he filled in for Bill Cullen and the guests were baseball greats including Cy Young. This was one of the first cigarette-sponsored IGAS shows that GSN aired under their "Lost Episodes" umbrella just before the Dark Period.


Unfortunately this 1955 episode hasn't aired since, falling victim to GSN's strange decision to skip over most IGAS episodes from 1952-1956 on BW Overnight.

I do hope GSN does some sort of a tribute, at least on BW Overnight. They certainly have enough episodes to choose from, from Art's appearances on WML, IGAS, and The Name's the Same.
chris319
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$99,000 Answer will air Saturday morning at 4:30 a.m.

Well be sure to say "hello" to Ralph Kramden. He brives a dus.
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