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cmjb13
QUOTE (MSTieScott @ Jun 8 2009, 12:39 PM) *
Unless I miss my guess, is that bright sea-greenish light near the top of the first cove (and nearly cut off of the top of the picture of the second cove) the device that rear-projects the family name onto the screen? Pretty cool that it doesn't look like a big, bulky projector.

Not sure about that one, but here's the projector for the main board (taken 2005)
fostergray82
New tweet:
WOW more high drama at the taping today! One family won 4 games in a row...then lost the 5th. Almost needed to bring Lee Iacocca in for CPR

The PR campaign via Twitter is a great idea, but uh, you'd like to save some of the surprises until September, y'know.

/Oh and lol!!1! :D
CJBojangles
Just returned from my visit to the Feud. Here are some of the changes for the new season.

FORMAT:
Intro
Bullseye
Meet the Families
Round 1 (Single)
- Commercial -
Round 2 (Double)
- Commercial -
Round 3 (Triple)
(Sudden Death, if needed)
- Commercial -
Fast Money
End credits

What's the Same

The set is completely identical, with the exception of a big-ass Chrysler 300 sitting behind the audience. You know where the little children were playing basketball last season during the NBA intros? Yeah, that's all filled with car.

They're still using that same horrid 30-second loop of the Combs theme for every piece of music. Faceoffs, bumpers, intro, and end credits. Oh, and the rhythmic clapping? Conducted by Burton off-stage. "Just look back at me if you get lost in the beat and don't have another black guy near you to help you stay on track."

What's New

The Bullseye Round
As I'd like to refer to it, "Speed Bullseye". After John's intro, he immediately announces it's time for the Bullseye round to build the family banks. The set turns red, the family captains head for the podium, and a giant bullseye is projected onto the big board. John says "Let's put $15,000 in each family's bank." There is silence, then applause. "$1,000" appears in a white, black-outlined and shadowed font on top of the Bullseye on the board. As John reads the first question from his cards (adorned with Bullseyes, no less) suspenseful music plays. This music continues through the entire round. There are no "clangs" or "bells" this time. Just what I can only describe as a "whoosh", then a "thud" as the Bullseye answer is revealed. Standard "strike" sound applies for an incorrect guess. Immediately after the answer is revealed, the players run back and switch places with the next two family members in line. The board then displays $2,000. Lather, rinse, repeat, all the way through $5,000. The whole round lasts maybe 2 minutes, max. On the show I attended, only the $1,000 question was answered correctly, resulting in one $15,000 bank, and one $16,000 bank. After the final question, the suspenseful music ends, the set changes back to its normal colors, and John announces the family totals. Then it's time to meet the families, and after a brief introduction, Round 1 starts with single values.

The Set
The large projection screens that hide the intro furniture and display the family names during gameplay were not lowered at all. I'm not sure if they're even still there. Instead, the furniture stayed as the backdrop the entire game. The family podia still have the same stupid eggcrates in them, and they're still only used to show the main game scores. That's right - Not only are the family names nowhere in sight on the set, neither are the Bullseye bank totals. This means that one if not both of those are either displayed by on-screen graphics, or are just not displayed for the home audience at all. If on-screen graphics are used, I wouldn't know it, because there are no studio monitors in audience view. At least, from where I was sitting, to the left of the "catwalk". The only monitors located behind the audience are a projection screen on either side, and one small boob tube in the center, at the end of the "catwalk". And they all display the big board graphics throughout the show.

Fast Money
They're back to the pre-Celeb FF Fast Money Graphics, with the flying red squares as opposed to the "balls of light". Fast Money consolation is still $5/point. There's a small red display off to the right side of the stage, just to the left of the large piece of set that houses the family on the right, that tells John how many points from 200 the family still needs, and the consolation amount, if needed. Every other piece of information relayed to John throughout the show is done the old-fashioned posterboard and sharpie method.
SRIV94
QUOTE (Ian Wallis @ Jun 2 2009, 04:23 PM) *
QUOTE
Wasn't looking at it so much from the nostalgia standpoint--I just prefer the way the Ferranti displays look compared to the Eggcrates.


Put me down for a couple of eggs...er...eggcrates. After seeing them on game shows practically my whole life, I'd miss them if they weren't there!

You do realize I'm talking about the display on Dawson/Combs FEUD? Still a 5x7 dot matrix, just a different "font" (for lack of a better term).
rollercoaster87
QUOTE (CJBojangles @ Jun 15 2009, 07:59 PM) *
The Set
The large projection screens that hide the intro furniture and display the family names during gameplay were not lowered at all. I'm not sure if they're even still there. Instead, the furniture stayed as the backdrop the entire game. The family podia still have the same stupid eggcrates in them, and they're still only used to show the main game scores. That's right - Not only are the family names nowhere in sight on the set, neither are the Bullseye bank totals. This means that one if not both of those are either displayed by on-screen graphics, or are just not displayed for the home audience at all. If on-screen graphics are used, I wouldn't know it, because there are no studio monitors in audience view. At least, from where I was sitting, to the left of the "catwalk". The only monitors located behind the audience are a projection screen on either side, and one small boob tube in the center, at the end of the "catwalk". And they all display the big board graphics throughout the show.

On Celebrity Family Feud, I remember them using a long lit set of LCDs for the family names, and just dimmed the lights on the "living rooms". Why didn't they just use that? It could have doubled as a bank score readout during the Bullseye Round.

Small Unnecessary Changes Kill (a show).

/I didn't notice till later that the above mentioned made an acronym.
Craig Karlberg
Well, the Bullseye suggestions I posed earlier were INDEED true. Now if only we can figure out which family's playing for what amount during the Bullseye round, it'd be easier to follow along.

"sigh" Still $5/point? That's just not gonna cut it in this economy. Oh well.

Single/Double/Tripe(SD*) is fine by me if that's how they'll work around the new Bullseye round.

The thought of the set turning red in the Bullseye format will take some getting use to. Reminds me of what a photo developing room looks like.

*If necessary
Modor
QUOTE (Craig Karlberg @ Jun 16 2009, 03:15 AM) *
Well, the Bullseye suggestions I posed earlier were INDEED true. Now if only we can figure out which family's playing for what amount during the Bullseye round, it'd be easier to follow along.
Oh, cripes.

QUOTE
"sigh" Still $5/point? That's just not gonna cut it in this economy. Oh well.
You can't be serious. Wait, you are.
QUOTE
Single/Double/Tripe(SD*) is fine by me if that's how they'll work around the new Bullseye round.
Glad to see they meet your approval.
whewfan
Is it possible that the family names and amount at stake are now digitally placed?

CJ Bojangles: With the new Bullseye format and 3 rounds, does Feud now seem VERY rushed?

I remember that being the downfall of Combs' Family Feud. Ray seemed to REALLY rush through the last couple rounds. I am also wondering if they now enforce the "I'm only going to read this question once" in the final round. They did so throughout most of the run, except on the O'Hurley version. We'll have to see if what you saw is what we see on TV, and how much is edited out. If you watch the early 300 point format episodes with Richard Karn, you can notice a LOT of edits. They obviously realized that with the game having 3 strikes in every round, plus one additional fast round for a sudden death, they didn't have the extra time.
CJBojangles
QUOTE (whewfan @ Jun 16 2009, 02:29 AM) *
CJ Bojangles: With the new Bullseye format and 3 rounds, does Feud now seem VERY rushed?

The show didn't seem any more rushed than it is now. The only part that was really done at breakneck speed was the Bullseye game.

Interestingly, after the first segment, a crew member told John "We're a minute long." To which John sarcastically responded, "Oh. We're a minute long. That's a shame." Those would be the last words he would speak while the cameras weren't on until "Thanks for coming, folks" upon his exit after the show. Total opposite of Bob Barker or Drew Carey during a TPiR taping, where there's chat and banter with the audience during commercial breaks. Instead, Burton ran out to cheerlead during every break while John stood there, in a foot-tapping sort of manner.

After they revealed the first answer of the second question, "Name an ice cream topping that a couple might use in the bedroom", or something similar, the stage manager ran onto the stage, announced that there was a "problem with that question" and they started over with John calling for the next family members for the faceoff, with a new question following.

They're still using the same stupid blue board graphics complete with "clang/whoosh" sound effect as well.
whewfan
Interesting... perhaps they felt that the question was too racy or something?

Whipped cream would be an obvious response... what else...

Cherries
Hot fudge

They probably could've reworded the question to "name a topping put on ice cream" and the context would still be the same.
1984Gameshowsfan
I actually don't mind a few spoilers; I have a volunteering job Monday-Thursdays during the time that FF is on in Seattle(9:30 AM, unless they change it; with TP:AP probably being canceled that's possible), so I don't really mind too many.
tvwxman
Here's a new tweet : and a link ....it's definitely different....but just don't know what's the point of it all....

Family_Feud: We are having some fun introducing the families!!...check it out http://bit.ly/mWtlG
urbanpreppie05
I suppose I don't mind that, but...

Do the rooms get used at all then? (CjBojangles?)
Sodboy13
"Show me 'crushed nuts'!"

/clang
//ow
CJBojangles
QUOTE (urbanpreppie05 @ Jun 16 2009, 01:19 PM) *
I suppose I don't mind that, but...

Do the rooms get used at all then? (CjBojangles?)


Only during the intros, for the families to "pose" with.
rollercoaster87
The first couple of seconds play the theme song from season 9, not the Feud 88 editing hack job. Hopefully they keep it that way.
Joe Mello
Another question: Are the Fast Money rules still fully explained? It seems like they could save a not-insignificant amount of time if they abridged it a little.
Strikerz04
QUOTE (Joe Mello @ Jun 16 2009, 10:52 PM) *
Another question: Are the Fast Money rules still fully explained? It seems like they could save a not-insignificant amount of time if they abridged it a little.


Now that you mention it, it could very well shave a minute (perhaps longer) if that part gets shaved off. I recalled Dawson's version cutting straight to the contestant with the time on the clock soon after.
Joe Mello
You could easily just do "We're back with the X Family who just won the game and are now going to play Fast Money. I'm here with Y, Z is secluded offstage, and if the 2 of you can give me 200 points, you know what you win. . . Gimme 20 seconds on the clock."

You'd think that after 10 years, the viewers would know the rules.
CJBojangles
QUOTE (Joe Mello @ Jun 16 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Another question: Are the Fast Money rules still fully explained? It seems like they could save a not-insignificant amount of time if they abridged it a little.


Yes, they're still explained in their entirety. And John still has cue cards for them.
chad1m
QUOTE (CJBojangles @ Jun 17 2009, 01:14 PM) *
And John still has cue cards for them.
Eh, Marc Summers still had cue cards three years into Double Dare's run. He didn't need them, really, the producers just had 'em.
CJBojangles
QUOTE (chad1m @ Jun 17 2009, 10:17 AM) *
Eh, Marc Summers still had cue cards three years into Double Dare's run. He didn't need them, really, the producers just had 'em.

Ah yes, the infamous "destruction of the cue cards" incident. I'd like to see O'Hurley do something like that.
Clay Zambo
QUOTE (tvwxman @ Jun 16 2009, 03:47 PM) *
Here's a new tweet : and a link ....it's definitely different....but just don't know what's the point of it all....

Family_Feud: We are having some fun introducing the families!!...check it out http://bit.ly/mWtlG


Okay, but where are they? Out on the breezeway at TVCity? That just seems silly. Let them introduce themselves, sure, but do it on set--or at their homes, if you're gonna go outside the studio.

File under: Change for the sake of bad audio.
CJBojangles
QUOTE (Clay Zambo @ Jun 17 2009, 12:48 PM) *
Okay, but where are they? Out on the breezeway at TVCity? That just seems silly. Let them introduce themselves, sure, but do it on set--or at their homes, if you're gonna go outside the studio.

Just for the record, Feud tapes at Sunset Bronson Studios, not Television City.
bwood
QUOTE (CJBojangles @ Jun 15 2009, 08:59 PM) *
Just returned from my visit to the Feud. Here are some of the changes for the new season.

FORMAT:
Intro
Bullseye
Meet the Families ........


So is the "Meet The Families" part them showing the short vids that popped up via the FF Twitter page? It would make sense because John is standing center stage in the clip. If so that's not as bad as I thought, and it would save time. When I initially saw the video I thought they nixed the traditional show intro for those intro videos (since they were looking for a "new" intro last year and wanted suggestions).
CJBojangles
QUOTE (bwood @ Jun 17 2009, 01:04 PM) *
So is the "Meet The Families" part them showing the short vids that popped up via the FF Twitter page? It would make sense because John is standing center stage in the clip. If so that's not as bad as I thought, and it would save time. When I initially saw the video I thought they nixed the traditional show intro for those intro videos (since they were looking for a "new" intro last year and wanted suggestions).

The "Meet the Families" portion I was referring to was just John's introduction to the day's players. I.E. "Returning with $23,000, it's the _______ family! Who do you have with you today, team captain?" Sort of interesting how they segway right into it after the Bullseye game, and after how fast they play it, it'd easy to forget it even happened.

At no point in the taping did I see anything regarding personal intros. No throws to a clip of any kind. Just the regular open, and regular family introductions. The tweet about the family intros didn't happen until the day after my taping, however. How they plan on incorporating these "home movie" type intros they're touting on Twitter is beyond me. Maybe they're just alluding to the YouTube video, and using a poor choice of words.
bwood
See, I got the vibe that this will be (has been) incorporated in the show somehow (and the fractions of in studio clips at the beginning and end support that theory). I wonder what they are trying to do with these.....
Mr. Armadillo
QUOTE (Joe Mello @ Jun 17 2009, 12:13 PM) *
You could easily just do "We're back with the X Family who just won the game and are now going to play Fast Money. I'm here with Y, Z is secluded offstage, and if the 2 of you can give me 200 points, you know what you win. . . Gimme 20 seconds on the clock."


This seems like a very bad thing, now that 'what you win' is going to be different every episode.
Sodboy13
QUOTE (Mr. Armadillo @ Jun 18 2009, 10:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Joe Mello @ Jun 17 2009, 12:13 PM) *
You could easily just do "We're back with the X Family who just won the game and are now going to play Fast Money. I'm here with Y, Z is secluded offstage, and if the 2 of you can give me 200 points, you know what you win. . . Gimme 20 seconds on the clock."


This seems like a very bad thing, now that 'what you win' is going to be different every episode.


"(Name) is with me here for Fast Money, (Name) is offstage where he/she can't hear or see us, and if the two of them can put together two hundred points, they'll win (Number) thousand dollars for their family. Ready? Twenty seconds on the clock..."

Second player:
"(Name), you need (number) points to win (number) thousand dollars. Don't give me an answer (Name)'s already given, or you'll hear this sound (bzz-bzz) and I'll ask you to try again. Okay? Twenty-five seconds on the clock..."

Doesn't seem that hard to pull off.
Mr. Armadillo
True. I was mostly replying just to that specific example.
CJBojangles
Plus, it's been an absolute necessity since Louie started it that the contestant frantically shout "FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS! WHOOOO!!!11!!" followed by a round of applause. Gotta save those precious seconds for that!
bandit_bobby
A Chrysler 300 as the car on offer next season? Geez- that company's in limbo. I would've instead offered either the Honda InSight, the Honda Odyssey or the Toyota Prius.
Bob Zager
I stumbled across an article about Fremantle's recent licensing agreement for the new video game versions of TPIR, PYL, and FF, showing a picture of what look's to me like John O'Hurley and a different set, looking closer to the Ray Combs era set:

http://www.licensemag.com/licensemag/Case+...ategoryId=47781

Anyone know if the show is being updated set-wise?
bwood
QUOTE (Bob Zager @ Jun 27 2009, 10:56 AM) *
I stumbled across an article about Fremantle's recent licensing agreement for the new video game versions of TPIR, PYL, and FF, showing a picture of what look's to me like John O'Hurley and a different set, looking closer to the Ray Combs era set:

http://www.licensemag.com/licensemag/Case+...ategoryId=47781

Anyone know if the show is being updated set-wise?


I'm thinking that's from one of those "Family Feud LIVE!" shows they were doing for corporate groups and such (or the casino show that came back last year). There was a FF Live website a few months back (listing booking info and talent and such) that had pics like that but it's offline now.

I found this post I made a while ago that confirms that it's from the live show. In said pic they are using the more "traveling" set, rather than the Combs replica set. If I remember correctly, I believe that on this version of the Live set, the board and family backdrops are actually inflatables (like the kids bounce houses and such). The board is like one of those inflatable movie screens you can buy.
Fladam
This popped up the other day too

Family Feud on DS and Wii

I'm also noticing that our Ubisoft buyer accidentally spelled it "Fued" - I'll change that on Monday :)
clemon79
QUOTE (bwood @ Jun 27 2009, 08:07 AM) *
I'm thinking that's from one of those "Family Feud LIVE!" shows they were doing for corporate groups and such (or the casino show that came back last year).

It is. I recognize the gameboard software.
whewfan
QUOTE (Fladam @ Jun 27 2009, 01:06 PM) *
This popped up the other day too

Family Feud on DS and Wii

I'm also noticing that our Ubisoft buyer accidentally spelled it "Fued" - I'll change that on Monday :)



I am guessing it'll have the "Pre-Bullseye" format, and perhaps the current set. In any case I HOPE it'll be better than the Playstation version that came out a few years ago. The previous version had its perks, such as the option to play the game using the various sets of Feud (Dawson era brought back memories for me). However, the typing interface was difficult, and the gameplay seemed monotonous with the "host" using the EXACT SAME banter from show to show. (I don't care if it was Todd Newton, it still was monotonous, and at times the pacing of the game DRAGGED)
Thunder
QUOTE (whewfan @ Jun 27 2009, 06:04 PM) *
...(I don't care if it was Todd Newton, it still was monotonous...


But you repeat yourself...
Fladam
QUOTE (whewfan @ Jun 27 2009, 05:04 PM) *
I am guessing it'll have the "Pre-Bullseye" format, and perhaps the current set. In any case I HOPE it'll be better than the Playstation version that came out a few years ago. The previous version had its perks, such as the option to play the game using the various sets of Feud (Dawson era brought back memories for me). However, the typing interface was difficult, and the gameplay seemed monotonous with the "host" using the EXACT SAME banter from show to show. (I don't care if it was Todd Newton, it still was monotonous, and at times the pacing of the game DRAGGED)


I'm not sure about the gameplay, but nothing could be worse than the PS2 version. The pace, the typing interface, the hideous avatars...
Mike Tennant
QUOTE (Fladam @ Jun 30 2009, 01:43 PM) *
The pace, the typing interface, the hideous avatars...
Things Fladam Hates About PS2 Feud!
chad1m
QUOTE (Mike Tennant @ Jun 30 2009, 02:37 PM) *
Things Fladam Hates About PS2 Feud!
Congratulations!
chad1m
FamilyFeud at Twitter and YouTube has put up a preview of the new intro plus Bullseye. That's followed by a Meet the Families segment and a bit of the first round.

I like the on-screen Bullseye graphics and sounds. The graphics for the family names and the earned amounts are neat too, but I'd still prefer they'd keep it on the backdrop.
Hastin
I agree, the Music and timing is perfect. Doesn't feel rushed, but feels quick enough. Plus, I like that the last player in the families goes for the $5000. Generally, that last player doesn't have much impact on the game - so it's nice to see something for them. I like the lack of backdrops (makes it seem more like 'home'), however I'd like to see the total played for on the lectern.
Joe Mello
QUOTE (Hastin @ Jul 20 2009, 02:57 PM) *
Generally, that last player doesn't have much impact on the game - so it's nice to see something for them.

Considering they broke stalemates before, their role is even more diminished here with a single face-off that has no bearing on the game.
Sodboy13
Hold on a sec here.

Goins family: $15K + $1K + $3K + $5K = $24,000.
Fischbeck family: $15K + $2K = $20,000.

'Scuse me?
chad1m
Here's another Bullseye with the Goins family.
WhammyPower
QUOTE (chad1m @ Jul 20 2009, 05:56 PM) *
Here's another Bullseye with the Goins family.

I'm trying to figure out how a score of $29,000 - $18,000 is possible. The only thing I've got is that they add $1000 for each day a family returns.

/But why wouldn't they mention this?
Sodboy13
QUOTE (WhammyPower @ Jul 20 2009, 06:03 PM) *
QUOTE (chad1m @ Jul 20 2009, 05:56 PM) *
Here's another Bullseye with the Goins family.

I'm trying to figure out how a score of $29,000 - $18,000 is possible. The only thing I've got is that they add $1000 for each day a family returns.

/But why wouldn't they mention this?


Except the team with $29K is announced as being on their second day; having earned $25K, there's $4,000 unaccounted for. As for the "returning bonus": the other Bullseye clip is from the Goins' second day; no bonus for them.

Originally, I suspected there might be some kind of unspoken $20,000 minimum, which would have been dumb enough. But after this second clip, I can't figure out what the hell's going on, short of everyone in the room being unable to add.
TLEberle
QUOTE (WhammyPower @ Jul 20 2009, 04:03 PM) *
I'm trying to figure out how a score of $29,000 - $18,000 is possible.
My Occam's Razor Eight-Ball says "go with someone added wrong." When the money is flying that fast, there's bound to be problems. Plus they don't have any sort of onstage graphic to check against, so we're going on John's say-so.

Good idea, piss-po' execution.
CarShark
QUOTE (TLEberle @ Jul 20 2009, 08:41 PM) *
QUOTE (WhammyPower @ Jul 20 2009, 04:03 PM) *
I'm trying to figure out how a score of $29,000 - $18,000 is possible.
My Occam's Razor Eight-Ball says "go with someone added wrong." When the money is flying that fast, there's bound to be problems. Plus they don't have any sort of onstage graphic to check against, so we're going on John's say-so.

Good idea, piss-po' execution.

If that's the case, then why put it out on the internet for all the world to see in all its unedited glory?
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