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Casey Buck
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On Sunday, January 7th at 7PM ET, "Deal or No Deal" will add a new wrinkle to the game: Double or Nothing. Nothing is really known about how the US will handle it, but the Australian version of the show had it for a bit. In it, they could bet however much money they choose to from the amount they won and then pick a case. If they pick DOUBLE, they double the amount of the bet. If they pick NOTHING, they lose the amount they bet. So, hypothetically, if a person gambles $100,000 from the $250,000 they won: picking DOUBLE adds $200,000 to the player's total giving them $350,000. Picking NOTHING takes the $100,000 away leaving them with $150,000. Watch as Kathy Beck plays for $2,000,000 in a special "Grease" edition of "Deal or No Deal". Our version is getting really good, especially when we add game enhancing features like this.
itiparanoid13
NBC provided a picture of the bigass cases. Four models for one case. Maybe if they get the double case a few models will come tumbling out of it. That little asian lady on the right audience pit is amusing me, though. She seems to be enjoying herself, or is on a heavy drug. I failed to mention this in the article also (I need to include this), but the Lucky Case game is worth $100,000, according to NBC.
Don Howard
QUOTE(itiparanoid13 @ Jan 3 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]142061[/snapback]

Hey, what is this? The models are wearing pants. Get them skimpy dresses back on, girls.
GS Warehouse
QUOTE(Don Howard @ Jan 3 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]142064[/snapback]
Hey, what is this? The models are wearing pants. Get them skimpy dresses back on, girls.

[clicks link, eyes pop out]

That's a lot of "bad Sandys"!
Matt Ottinger
QUOTE(Don Howard @ Jan 3 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]142064[/snapback]
Hey, what is this? The models are wearing pants. Get them skimpy dresses back on, girls.

I'm guessing they're supposed to be "slutty Sandy" from the end of Grease.

EDIT: Jason, a reminder, it's not a good idea to upstage a moderator. Next time, post your message one minute after mine, not before.
Shame on you.
Don Howard
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QUOTE(Don Howard @ Jan 3 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]142064[/snapback]
Hey, what is this? The models are wearing pants. Get them skimpy dresses back on, girls.

I'm guessing they're supposed to be "slutty Sandy" from the end of Grease.

So the sluttier they are, the more clothes they wear.
I trust they'll return to their purer ways for the next show.
WilliamPorygon
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Our version is getting really good, especially when we add game enhancing features like this.


I sure as hell hope they're being sarcastic there.
Don Howard
QUOTE(WilliamPorygon @ Jan 3 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]142072[/snapback]

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Our version is getting really good, especially when we add game enhancing features like this.

I sure as hell hope they're being sarcastic there.

They must be. I can't imagine what's game-enhancing about having the models wearing pants.
itiparanoid13
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I sure as hell hope they're being sarcastic there.


I wasn't being sarcastic. I think additions like Double or Nothing, some of the skits that have been going on with the Banker's models, plus the sudden addition of a bit of a personality from the Banker have made the game much more entertaining than it was at the end of last season. Not only that but we have really limited the amount of special prizes and surprises, which just got out of hand at, yet again, the end of the last season. It's not perfect by any means, but we are slowly improving in my opinion.
jdhernandez
IMPROVING?!? I'm sorry, but I must respectively disagree here. That addition of Double or Nothing completely reeks of copycatysm from the Aussie version, and that was quickly axed after, what, a few measly months?

As for the models... where are the legs?!? I want them to wear those cute and skimpy Santa's helpers outfits all the time. ;-D
clemon79
QUOTE(jdhernandez @ Jan 3 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]142085[/snapback]

IMPROVING?!? I'm sorry, but I must respectively disagree here. That addition of Double or Nothing completely reeks of copycatysm from the Aussie version,

Except, you do realize, I fervently hope, that the only people who will notice this are about two hundred fervent game-show geeks, and their indignance will have exactly zero effect on the show's rating.

Oh, and one more thing: how come this is copying and us lifting Millionaire wholesale from the British version is heralded as one of the greatest friggin' game shows of all time?
Robert Hutchinson
I am saddened by the general lack of appreciation of tight pants on ladies in this discussion.
clemon79
QUOTE(Robert Hutchinson @ Jan 3 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]142095[/snapback]

I am saddened by the general lack of appreciation of tight pants on ladies in this discussion.

Hey, I would have hit it like Greased Lightning.

/sadly, that's how quickly I'd probably finish, too
davemackey
QUOTE(clemon79 @ Jan 3 2007, 11:37 PM) [snapback]142096[/snapback]

QUOTE(Robert Hutchinson @ Jan 3 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]142095[/snapback]

I am saddened by the general lack of appreciation of tight pants on ladies in this discussion.

Hey, I would have hit it like Greased Lightning.

/sadly, that's how quickly I'd probably finish, too

Come on, you guys, it's a network tie in. NBC wants people to watch this dumb Grease auditions thing.

/wondering how NBC's going to work around the "dirty words" in "Greased Lightning"
weaklink75
The Double or Nothing thing is a good idea (although unless you have a real gambler, you probably won't see much gambled)...What I'd like to see is the "Chance" offered in the Oz version (a player takes a deal, then gets down to 2 cases-one larger (usually much larger) than the deal, and one smaller (usually much smaller) than the deal- the player can give back the deal they made for the original case)...It could be really tempting to give back say, a $80K deal for a 50/50 chance at $400K or $500...
GS Warehouse
QUOTE(davemackey @ Jan 4 2007, 05:33 AM) [snapback]142115[/snapback]
Come on, you guys, it's a network tie in. NBC wants people to watch this dumb Grease auditions thing.
I was going to mention that, but I thought better of it, fearing a whoosh trap. And if Michimatt says the exact same thing one minute later, I'm going to send him my leftover eggnog. ;-)

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/wondering how NBC's going to work around the "dirty words" in "Greased Lightning"
Ever watch Tim Allen's rendition of "Greased Lightning" in one of Home Improvement's last episodes?

ObGS, HI edition: Tim's castmates included a then-future game show host and a former substitute card dealer.
ObGS, Travolta edition: One of Travolta's Welcome Back, Kotter castmates, Robert Hegyes, was a regular game show panelist in the '70s and '80s.
TLEberle
QUOTE(itiparanoid13 @ Jan 3 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]142074[/snapback]
It's not perfect by any means, but we are slowly improving in my opinion.
When the top five cases are $50,000; $100,000; $200,000, $500,000 and $1 million, we'll talk about the show improving.


QUOTE(jdhernandez @ Jan 3 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]142085[/snapback]
IMPROVING?!? I'm sorry, but I must respectively disagree here. That addition of Double or Nothing completely reeks of copycatysm from the Aussie version, and that was quickly axed after, what, a few measly months?
Well, the show is already a "copycat" in several ways. And Double or Nothing stuck around for a good long time. They just knew better than to trot it out every day. "So, Jim, you've won a hundred bucks. Wanna go Double or Nothing?"


QUOTE(weaklink75 @ Jan 4 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]142129[/snapback]
What I'd like to see is the "Chance" offered in the Oz version
My personal favorite "overtime" bit from the Australian version is the Super Case, but that's just me.
Joe Mello
Trotting out the Double would be good as a sweeps manuver and hopefully, this will only be done sparingly. Otherwise, this will just be overdone like half of everything else on the show.

I'd be interested in seeing how many people wager a part (not all) of their winnings in it. I'd put the over/under at 25% (of those who go Double/Nothing)
TimK2003
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QUOTE(clemon79 @ Jan 3 2007, 11:37 PM) [snapback]142096[/snapback]

QUOTE(Robert Hutchinson @ Jan 3 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]142095[/snapback]

I am saddened by the general lack of appreciation of tight pants on ladies in this discussion.

Hey, I would have hit it like Greased Lightning.

/sadly, that's how quickly I'd probably finish, too

Come on, you guys, it's a network tie in. NBC wants people to watch this dumb Grease auditions thing.

/wondering how NBC's going to work around the "dirty words" in "Greased Lightning"



Though not an NBC affiliate, Akron-based TV station WBNX had graciously rented out the Ernest Angely Blackout Button for this very special DoND

(inspired by this thread...about half way down)
clemon79
QUOTE(Joe Mello @ Jan 4 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]142145[/snapback]

I'd be interested in seeing how many people wager a part (not all) of their winnings in it. I'd put the over/under at 25% (of those who go Double/Nothing)

So you're saying 75% will NOT shoot the wad? That's probably pretty accurate. I know in my experience most of the Australian contestants didn't shoot the wad.
MikeK
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QUOTE(Joe Mello @ Jan 4 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]142145[/snapback]

I'd be interested in seeing how many people wager a part (not all) of their winnings in it. I'd put the over/under at 25% (of those who go Double/Nothing)

So you're saying 75% will NOT shoot the wad? That's probably pretty accurate. I know in my experience most of the Australian contestants didn't shoot the wad.

The way I read it was that Joe says 25% of the players will risk at least some of their money on the double or nothing, not 25% will bet it all.

Having seen most every Aussie Deal that has circulated through torrent sites over the past year, I recall three people betting it all, one won (doubled $100 to $200) and the others lost it all, one lost $2 while the other lost no more than $1000.

Like Travis, I enjoy the Supercase and would like to see it used in our version.
clemon79
QUOTE(MikeK @ Jan 4 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]142166[/snapback]

The way I read it was that Joe says 25% of the players will risk at least some of their money on the double or nothing, not 25% will bet it all.

Ah. I guess I was giving Joe too much credit. Should have known better.
Joe Mello
>_>

I'd say 10% of people will actually attempt this new wrinkle (they may be dumb, but they're not stupid), and of those that do, 25% will not bet it all.
SteveR
The option to bet any or all of your winnings minimizes the effect of Double Or Nothing.

It should be like CS's Big Bet -- must risk at least half your money.
clemon79
QUOTE(Joe Mello @ Jan 4 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]142181[/snapback]

I'd say 10% of people will actually attempt this new wrinkle (they may be dumb, but they're not stupid), and of those that do, 25% will not bet it all.

You are completely talking out of your ass, aren't you?
tvwxman
QUOTE(Joe Mello @ Jan 4 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]142181[/snapback]

>_>

I'd say 10% of people will actually attempt this new wrinkle (they may be dumb, but they're not stupid), and of those that do, 25% will not bet it all.

Why do I keep unblocking your posts? That really needs to be fixed in a New Years Resolution of mine.
tvwxman
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QUOTE(itiparanoid13 @ Jan 3 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]142074[/snapback]
It's not perfect by any means, but we are slowly improving in my opinion.
When the top five cases are $50,000; $100,000; $200,000, $500,000 and $1 million, we'll talk about the show improving.


QUOTE(jdhernandez @ Jan 3 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]142085[/snapback]
IMPROVING?!? I'm sorry, but I must respectively disagree here. That addition of Double or Nothing completely reeks of copycatysm from the Aussie version, and that was quickly axed after, what, a few measly months?
Well, the show is already a "copycat" in several ways. And Double or Nothing stuck around for a good long time. They just knew better than to trot it out every day. "So, Jim, you've won a hundred bucks. Wanna go Double or Nothing?"


I actually liked D/N....version 2.

Version One on the aussie show had only one big case that either said Double or Nothing in it...To me, it reeked of producer tampering.

The second version had two cases with both, and the contestant picking the case he wanted. Much better.

Funny how some of you are complimenting a game for adding new wrinkles, when its becoming apparent that the original game, sans wrinkles, is probably getting stale to producers, and the audience for that matter. This is all they can do to keep it fresh.
uncamark
For the record, promos show that the models will be wearing 50s poodle skirts at the top of the show--yes, it's all to promote "Grease: You're the One That I Want," starring your host Billy Bush, which will immediately follow. (I heard somewhere that a star of the film will make a "surprise" appearance on "DOND"--she's also appearing on "One That I Want." You'll never been mellow if you don't know who it might be.)

"The Apprentice" is also having its season premiere Sunday night, but Trump was on "DOND" last season. It was yooge. :)

Program Note: Special "1v100" next Sun. the 14th at 7 p.m. ET. I wonder if they'll do a "Grease" cast reunion in the Mob.
TimK2003
QUOTE(uncamark @ Jan 5 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]142287[/snapback]

(I heard somewhere that a star of the film will make a "surprise" appearance on "DOND"--she's also appearing on "One That I Want." You'll never been mellow if you don't know who it might be.)


Geez, Mark! You spoiled the DOND spoiler spot that NBC was to run this weekend, which was going to spoil the surprise guest's cameo on Sunday!

Into the Double Dare Spoilers Booth you go Dr. Jeffries! :-P
Robert Hutchinson
It's Didi Conn, right?

Right?
GS Warehouse
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QUOTE(uncamark @ Jan 5 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]142287[/snapback]
(I heard somewhere that a star of the film will make a "surprise" appearance on "DOND"--she's also appearing on "One That I Want." You'll never been mellow if you don't know who it might be.)
Geez, Mark! You spoiled the DOND spoiler spot that NBC was to run this weekend, which was going to spoil the surprise guest's cameo on Sunday!

Please Mr. Please, I hope I won't have to get physical here. By some strange twist of fate, my DirecTV program guide already spoiled who the totally hot guest is.
fostergray82
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QUOTE(uncamark @ Jan 5 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]142287[/snapback]
(I heard somewhere that a star of the film will make a "surprise" appearance on "DOND"--she's also appearing on "One That I Want." You'll never been mellow if you don't know who it might be.)
Geez, Mark! You spoiled the DOND spoiler spot that NBC was to run this weekend, which was going to spoil the surprise guest's cameo on Sunday!

Please Mr. Please, I hope I won't have to get physical here. By some strange twist of fate, my DirecTV program guide already spoiled who the totally hot guest is.

(looks at DirecTV guide)

Oooh!...you mean the guest is {gets shot}
Sodboy13
I've gotta say, this entire thread has put me right into Xanadu.
cmjb13
QUOTE(uncamark @ Jan 5 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]142287[/snapback]

Program Note: Special "1v100" next Sun. the 14th at 7 p.m. ET.

Per my DVR: "Members of the group Sha Na Na"

Can it be?
WhammyPower
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QUOTE(uncamark @ Jan 5 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]142287[/snapback]
(I heard somewhere that a star of the film will make a "surprise" appearance on "DOND"--she's also appearing on "One That I Want." You'll never been mellow if you don't know who it might be.)
Geez, Mark! You spoiled the DOND spoiler spot that NBC was to run this weekend, which was going to spoil the surprise guest's cameo on Sunday!

Please Mr. Please, I hope I won't have to get physical here. By some strange twist of fate, my DirecTV program guide already spoiled who the totally hot guest is.

(looks at DirecTV guide)

Oooh!...you mean the guest is {gets shot}

My Time Warner Guide has it, too. That's One Nice Job they did there.
Jimmy Owen
I hope it's Edd Byrnes.
tpirfan28
QUOTE(Jimmy Owen @ Jan 7 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]142409[/snapback]

I hope it's Edd Byrnes.

I hope it's Pat O'Brien.

/that guy's great...we already know that :)
TLEberle
QUOTE(WhammyPower @ Jan 7 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]142375[/snapback]
My Time Warner Guide has it, too. That's One Nice Job they did there.
Too much salt!

/obscure?
weaklink75
Well that was.......anti-climazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
SRIV94
QUOTE(Sodboy13 @ Jan 6 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]142324[/snapback]

I've gotta say, this entire thread has put me right into Xanadu.

I've got something better to do than to continue this bad run of song titles.

Don't I, Sam?

/Any who make a move on me for dredging up two obscure hits from the 1970s must be livin' in desparate times.
//Helps to have a Whitburn book handy.
bandit_bobby
I wish they had done the Austrailian rules.
BrentW
So you have to bet the whole thing? You can't double/nothing just part of it?

No one (with sanity) will ever do that. What are they thinking?
clemon79
QUOTE(BrentW @ Jan 7 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]142435[/snapback]

No one (with sanity) will ever do that.

I will remind you that you are talking about DoND contestants, who are already pre-screened for a lack of sanity before the show even comes up out of black.

But leave it to NBC to even screw this up.
jbrocato
QUOTE(BrentW @ Jan 7 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]142435[/snapback]

So you have to bet the whole thing? You can't double/nothing just part of it?

No one (with sanity) will ever do that. What are they thinking?


Maybe the player who won $200 last Wednesday. But you're right--no one will wager an entire five, six, or seven-digit payoff.

John Brocato
Peter Sarrett
"Gee Howie, I just took the deal with 5 cases left, turning down an 80% chance of increasing my money by half and a 20% risk of losing it all. But now that you've brought out those giant cases, sure-- I'll take a 50% chance of losing all my money!"

It's a fundamentally stupid concept. If the player is willing to take that risk, that player would still be opening cases-- where the odds of losing everything are smaller.
clemon79
QUOTE(Peter Sarrett @ Jan 7 2007, 09:56 PM) [snapback]142449[/snapback]

It's a fundamentally stupid concept. If the player is willing to take that risk, that player would still be opening cases-- where the odds of losing everything are smaller.

Again, it wasn't bad on the Australian show. (For those who don't know, on the Australian show, you could risk any part of your money, you didn't have to go all or nothing.)

But NBC, true to form, said "we need to simplify this" and never bothered to sit down and really think about whether it works in practice.

And, once again, leave it to those numbnuts to make winning almost $100K feel like a loss when they play out the double/nothing thing and it turns out they would have hit the right one.
weaklink75
I think the Chance twist Austrailian DoND uses may have worked better here (she was left with $10 and $750K-the Banker could have offered her a 2nd chance at her case, giving back the 99K for it...)..but no one will ever take the DoN option unless they have a really small win, or they change the rules to allow them to gamble just a part of it (even a none-half-all option might entice some gambling)...
GS Warehouse
QUOTE(SRIV94 @ Jan 7 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]142429[/snapback]

I've got something better to do than to continue this bad run of song titles.

Don't I, Sam?

/Any who make a move on me for dredging up two obscure hits from the 1970s must be livin' in desparate times.
//Helps to have a Whitburn book handy.

You have one too? Then come on over. If not for you, I'd be tied up trying to while away these summer nights.

Suddenly, I'm done with all this magic. I highly doubt I'd ever tell a GSF member, "I honestly love you."
TimK2003
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QUOTE(SRIV94 @ Jan 7 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]142429[/snapback]

I've got something better to do than to continue this bad run of song titles.

Don't I, Sam?

/Any who make a move on me for dredging up two obscure hits from the 1970s must be livin' in desparate times.
//Helps to have a Whitburn book handy.

You have one too? Then come on over. If not for you, I'd be tied up trying to while away these summer nights.

Suddenly, I'm done with all this magic. I highly doubt I'd ever tell a GSF member, "I honestly love you."


Give a little more love for these bad puns, and suddenly you're liable to give some of us a heart attack!
SRIV94
QUOTE(GS Warehouse @ Jan 8 2007, 09:45 PM) [snapback]142542[/snapback]

Suddenly, I'm done with all this magic. I highly doubt I'd ever tell a GSF member, "I honestly love you."

Let me be there when you do.

/Must. . .not. . .invoke. . ."If You Love Me, Let Me Know". . .people. . .will. . .talk.
//@#%$!

:-)
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