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Neumms
QUOTE(clemon79 @ Nov 17 2006, 11:12 AM) [snapback]138108[/snapback]

Raw stank-assed luck for a bedroom set, I don't mind. Raw stank-assed luck for $500K or more, I mind. But ultimately, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.


The other issue is that to win the bedroom set, every question they asked counted. You didn't get to nix two hoping they'd get easier. The guy thought Amsterdam was in Denmark, for cripes' sake! Damn it, I am gonna lose sleep over it! This is terrible! This is worse than the Hindenburg! How will our great nation ever survive both this and the Muslim congressman? Heaven help us!
clemon79
QUOTE(Matt Ottinger @ Nov 17 2006, 08:28 AM) [snapback]138111[/snapback]

The Gazpacho Aid Society, no doubt.

Or GAS, for short.

/I see what you did there
//<braaaap>
mmb5
Weighing in very late -- any chance we could get ABC to change the title to Miércoles Gigante? And they chose this over Poker Face? I've shown friends Poker Face, they are riveted. If I show them this, I think I will have to find new friends.


--Mike
clemon79
QUOTE(mmb5 @ Nov 17 2006, 08:58 AM) [snapback]138118[/snapback]

I've shown friends Poker Face, they are riveted. If I show them this, I think I will have to find new friends.

QFT. PokerFace is just a great game, and I was thrilled to learn it got picked up for a second series in the UK. Whoever greenlit this and passed on that should be fired. Bottom line.
tvwxman
QUOTE(clemon79 @ Nov 17 2006, 12:12 PM) [snapback]138119[/snapback]

QUOTE(mmb5 @ Nov 17 2006, 08:58 AM) [snapback]138118[/snapback]

I've shown friends Poker Face, they are riveted. If I show them this, I think I will have to find new friends.

QFT. PokerFace is just a great game, and I was thrilled to learn it got picked up for a second series in the UK. Whoever greenlit this and passed on that should be fired. Bottom line.

I dunno what QFT stands for, but I agree as well. This game needs an American outlet.
clemon79
QUOTE(tvwxman @ Nov 17 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]138120[/snapback]

I dunno what QFT stands for, but I agree as well. This game needs an American outlet.

Quoted For Truth. Basically a shortened way of saying "preach on, brother!"
fostergray82
Just read the rulesheet on Wikipedia, and another from ukgameshows.com. Quite an intriguing idea, and I like the idea that a losing contestant could theoretically, walk away with some money, should they bail out.

Anyone know who would've produced the American version? I could see Michael Davies behind this one.
mmb5
QUOTE(fostergray82 @ Nov 17 2006, 12:54 PM) [snapback]138122[/snapback]

Just read the rulesheet on Wikipedia, and another from ukgameshows.com. Quite an intriguing idea, and I like the idea that a losing contestant could theoretically, walk away with some money, should they bail out.

Anyone know who would've produced the American version? I could see Michael Davies behind this one.

Fremantle. Ant and Dec (the Poker Face hosts and American Idol hosts) have a relationship with them.


--Mike
clemon79
QUOTE(fostergray82 @ Nov 17 2006, 09:54 AM) [snapback]138122[/snapback]

Just read the rulesheet on Wikipedia, and another from ukgameshows.com. Quite an intriguing idea, and I like the idea that a losing contestant could theoretically, walk away with some money, should they bail out.

Check YouTube. Might have been taken down because they're cracking down on copyright issues, but I know for a time the UK finale episode was there, because that's where I saw it. If you're intrigued now, I promise you will be compelled when you see it in action.
mmb5
QUOTE(clemon79 @ Nov 17 2006, 01:11 PM) [snapback]138125[/snapback]

QUOTE(fostergray82 @ Nov 17 2006, 09:54 AM) [snapback]138122[/snapback]

Just read the rulesheet on Wikipedia, and another from ukgameshows.com. Quite an intriguing idea, and I like the idea that a losing contestant could theoretically, walk away with some money, should they bail out.

Check YouTube. Might have been taken down because they're cracking down on copyright issues, but I know for a time the UK finale episode was there, because that's where I saw it. If you're intrigued now, I promise you will be compelled when you see it in action.

If possible, try to find a non-final episode. The final episode was a tad anticlimactic because they had all won something before, and we're pretty good players. It's neater to see the my s***-doesn't-stink players get burned.

I also have all but one episode if you want to, ahem, "make arrangements".
Brig Bother
QUOTE(mmb5 @ Nov 17 2006, 06:27 PM) [snapback]138126[/snapback]

QUOTE(clemon79 @ Nov 17 2006, 01:11 PM) [snapback]138125[/snapback]

QUOTE(fostergray82 @ Nov 17 2006, 09:54 AM) [snapback]138122[/snapback]

Just read the rulesheet on Wikipedia, and another from ukgameshows.com. Quite an intriguing idea, and I like the idea that a losing contestant could theoretically, walk away with some money, should they bail out.

Check YouTube. Might have been taken down because they're cracking down on copyright issues, but I know for a time the UK finale episode was there, because that's where I saw it. If you're intrigued now, I promise you will be compelled when you see it in action.

If possible, try to find a non-final episode. The final episode was a tad anticlimactic because they had all won something before, and we're pretty good players. It's neater to see the my s***-doesn't-stink players get burned.

I also have all but one episode if you want to, ahem, "make arrangements".


I don't think that's quite fair, the players in the final weren't guaranteed any of their winnings from the heat unless they bailed out, so they actually stood to lose £50k+ if they strategised wrongly.

The best version of SMTM is the Italian version Tutto x Tutto which is a proper fun rollercoaster of a show, and I'll be writing a feature on it at the weekend with loads of screen caps for my site. It does away with the questions completely.
clemon79
QUOTE(Brig Bother @ Nov 17 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]138136[/snapback]

It does away with the questions completely.

And this makes it _good_?
Brig Bother
Trust me on this!
clemon79
QUOTE(Brig Bother @ Nov 17 2006, 02:01 PM) [snapback]138140[/snapback]

Trust me on this!

Well, the reason I say that is that the knowledge part of the US show seems to be the only part that anyone _likes_ about our version, so I'm not sure why taking it out wholesale would make it anything other than Deal Or No Deal with more math.
chris319
QUOTE(Clay Zambo @ Nov 17 2006, 07:46 AM) [snapback]138107[/snapback]

QUOTE(Matt Ottinger @ Nov 17 2006, 08:04 AM) [snapback]138100[/snapback]

I really don't get the wailing and gnashing of teeth over this trifle. Isn't something like The Joker's Wild just as "broken" because you could answer every question right and still lose? Pick a letter correctly every single time on Wheel of Fortune, but still lose the game with a couple of ill-timed Bankrupts? Wait your whole life to play Jeopardy! only to go up against the Greatest Player Ever? (Bitter, table for one.)


Yes, but in all of the your examples you're playing against somebody else, which seems to me to create more drama for the viewer. (Especially in the Jeopardy! example. Damn, I felt for that guy.)

The point Clay makes is right out of Game Show Production 101. SMTM doesn't even have the dramatic element of two or more contestants competing against one another.

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And the girls are hot.

If they replaced them with Chippendale's dancers I'll bet a lot of people on this board would like this show a lot less.
Brig Bother
QUOTE(clemon79 @ Nov 17 2006, 10:27 PM) [snapback]138142[/snapback]

QUOTE(Brig Bother @ Nov 17 2006, 02:01 PM) [snapback]138140[/snapback]

Trust me on this!

Well, the reason I say that is that the knowledge part of the US show seems to be the only part that anyone _likes_ about our version, so I'm not sure why taking it out wholesale would make it anything other than Deal Or No Deal with more math.


That's pretty much it. In fact, it involves even less skill than DoND, but it just so fascinatingly watchable. I think it's the flashing numbers.

In a nutshell, in round one, the contestant gets 5 pluses and 4 minuses. They pick one of the models (mainly male) holding a scroll, and before opening it, have to decide whether they're going use a plus and add the cash amount to their bank or a minus and take it away (cash amounts are 2x €0 and then 10 amounts from €500 to €5,000). The round is over when you've used up all their operators. You should, unless you've been really unlucky, have a score of between €500 and €22,000.

You now get the chance to multiply that by up to 200. You are given four multiplies and four divisions, and this time the models are holding numbers from 1-5 (if you want to do your own maths: 1x1, 3x2, 3x3, 3x4, 2x5). Once again, you have to play all your operators, so you want the muliplies with the big numbers and the divisions with the small numbers. This will leave you with a score of between €10 (if you're unlucky) to over a million euros, if you've been very fortunate indeed.

Finally, you must select one of the remaining scrolls to determine the final factor. Two more models come out holding an envelope each, one with a multiply inside, one with a division. Don't pick the wrong one. The top prize is over €4m, the average prize seems to be about €20,000.

It's a rollercoaster you can't get off, basically. I fully anticipate that to get slagged off, but you know, it just works. It helps that it's hosted by Pupo, who also hosted their version of DoND for a long time, and is hugely excellent.
Neumms
QUOTE(Brig Bother @ Nov 17 2006, 06:29 PM) [snapback]138145[/snapback]

It's a rollercoaster you can't get off, basically. I fully anticipate that to get slagged off, but you know, it just works. It helps that it's hosted by Pupo, who also hosted their version of DoND for a long time, and is hugely excellent.


But roller coasters aren't that much fun to watch. They're fun to ride.
clemon79
QUOTE(Neumms @ Nov 17 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]138146[/snapback]

But roller coasters aren't that much fun to watch. They're fun to ride.

Speaking as a former Atari employee, I don't know if that statement is entirely true. :)
TimK2003
QUOTE(clemon79 @ Nov 17 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]138147[/snapback]

QUOTE(Neumms @ Nov 17 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]138146[/snapback]

But roller coasters aren't that much fun to watch. They're fun to ride.

Speaking as a former Atari employee, I don't know if that statement is entirely true. :)


And on the flip side, not *all* roller coasters are fun to ride...I can handle the mega- and giga-coasters, but as each year that passes in my middle age, the maximum amount of loopage before before I turn a lovely shade of green seems to decrease by a loop each year. And don't get me started on the "wild mouse rides" that start spinning you around where you least expect them to.

sshuffield70
QUOTE(clemon79 @ Nov 17 2006, 08:11 PM) [snapback]138147[/snapback]

QUOTE(Neumms @ Nov 17 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]138146[/snapback]

But roller coasters aren't that much fun to watch. They're fun to ride.

Speaking as a former Atari employee, I don't know if that statement is entirely true. :)


A good excuse to reload RCT3. ;)
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