My guess is that TPiR will be #1...but I can't guarantee it.

It will almost certainly be one that they have the rights to show. My guess is Match Game.

That also makes me think that Millionaire will be #1...as they have rights to it AND it's their #1-rated show.

This discussion is going on right now in the thread right below yours as I type this.

Having read your introduction in "Let's Meet Our Players"...


...and now this, let me offer some advice: unlike the situation on the GSN board and some other forums, on this board no special recognition is given, and no special respect is accorded, for reaching a certain number of posts. If it becomes clear that you are posting just to raise your post count, you will not have a pleasant experience here.

There's a lot of not-thinking going on in here.

You guys are new, so I don't expect you to have seen this, but it's pretty much been concluded that a) there is no way that they will do the gloss-over thing for any show in the Top 5, and b) TPiR pretty much has to be in the Top 5.

You're right,David, TPIR has to be and will definitely be in the Top 5. But I don't know if an episode will be shown or what. After all, it has been on for 35 years and has beaten the crap out of everything against it from the original Concentration on NBC in 1972 to Barbara Walters' gabfast The View on ABC today. How many programs can say that?. That is, "We've been on for 35 years, and have beaten the crap out of everything against us!". Think about it.

Hey everyone,

Here's what I think will happen. TPIR WILL be number 1, and should be, considering how long is has been on, and the following it has.

Notice how they plan on showing Greatest game shows #2 and #1 on the 31st of August. They'll show 2 episodes of the game show that is 2nd greatest, and end with saying "Ladies and gentlemen, you're favorite game show, The Price is Right!" Then they'll tell the history, show some photos and then Bil will close the show by saying thanks a lot bla bla bla.

This way, they don't show an episode, it's still number 1, and it doesn't seem awkward somewhere in the middle that they aren't showing an episode.

Just my prediction. Here's my prediction for the rest of the order:

1) The Price is Right
2) Match Game
3) Jeopardy!
4) Wheel of Fortune
5) Who Wants to be a Millionaire
6) Family Feud
7) The Newlywed Game
8) Let's Make a Deal
9) The $20,000 Pyramid
10) The Dating Game

Adam

Ladies and gentlemen, a new definition for "anticlimactic."

That wouldn't seem awkward? Dude, pass me some of that crack when yer done. It MUST be smooth.

You're not kidding, Chris.

BTW, would the old Cullen episodes of Price still be available to GSN? Might be a heck of a switch if they showed one of those if the whole worry with Fremantle is not to overexpose Barker.

Probably not the first to ponder that idea, but it WOULD be a nice compromise. (There, I just jinxed it.)

The worry has nothing to do with overexposing Barker, the worry has everything to do with Fremantle wanting more money for the rights to the show than GSN is willing to pay. In setting up this little stunt, GSN placed themselves directly over the barrel with Fremantle, and you can rest assured they have extracted a hefty sum for the episode of Price that is almost certainly going to air.

It would be a perfectly idiotic idea. If they DON'T run a Barker episode of Price, the version and the host that every casual viewer of the show knows and identifies with, they're gonna look ridiculous. Period.

About the only way they dodge that bullet is if Bil stands there, does his little spiel, and says something like "And you can still see Bob Barker and The Price Is Right on CBS even to this day. And because of that, we have a little something special to show you...", and then run a Cullen. But, personally, I think even that makes them look really really stupid.

It would not be too awkward to me, because I'm familiar with TPiR on GSN's history, but for the rest of the common folk watching this countdown? Oh, HELL yeah. VERY awkward. Akin to American Top 40 and when they get to #1, a mere mention of the song and then a sign off.

Being in the middle of the Top 10 and not showing an episode seems a lot stranger than having it be number 1 and not showing one. If it's number 1, it will be revealed as "the moment people are all waiting for." People just watching it who don't know what GSN doesn't own, probably will just assume they aren't showing it because it's on every day. If it's best game show number 2, and they just move along to number 1, it seems to me people may wonder more why it wasn't shown.

Adam

If it's important enough to be #1, it's important enough to be shown. Most people who would see GSN list a show as #1 but not show an episode will wonder, "Gee, if it's so special why don't they let us see it?"

That's what common sense would suggest, anyway.

What if they showed two eps, one Cullen and one Barker (both half-hour, of course)? Show the history and its evolution.

The only way that happens is if TPiR is 7 or 8 on the list. The rest of the shows in the top 6 are shows that will be aired--meaning each show gets a half-hour (the final week has 6 and 5 Tuesday, 4 and 3 Wednesday and 2 and 1 Thursday).

Doug

Because in order for that to happen, they need two slots. And listings services already show GSN's hitting six shows the final weeks, meaning for that to happen, something OTHER than price would have to be non-shown: And of all the non-Price shows left in to be potentially shows, only LMAD has even the most remote chance of not being shown.

Unless they actually try to stick TPiR at 7th or 8th (the two one-hour slots remaining), which would get really ugly really fast - a PR black eye GSN doesn't need.

And with the GSN's planned Greatest Hosts shows in the offing, GSN quite presumably may have this whole can of worms AGAIN at some point.

At this point I would actually be more shocked to see a Cullen TPiR than to see TPiR not mentioned at all. The list has been anti-black-and-white and I don't see that changing in the top ten. Personally I think Cullen and Barker episodes back to back would rule but it's not my list and not my network.

I think TPiR at #7 could happen. Not where I would put it but it could happen. After all I was sure Squares, Password and What's My Line? would end up in the top ten (and I am still shocked Password didn't).

That's true. TPiR is very well the #1 game show of all time...no matter what list you look at. I may be a big fan of PYL, but even I think TPiR is #1. So if GSN were to do something such as keep it way from #1, the TOP 5 no less, that will be like mass insult against CBS, TPiR, Bob Barker, Fremantle, GSN, and of course the MANY of TPiR's fan base.

BTW, not to straddle Off-topic, what does PR mean?

Public Relations.

Doug

What Doug said. Also, you don't "straddle" off-topic, you stray off-topic.

I know I was straddling something last night...
/oh, it's lunch time?

Then if that's the case, what episode would air? Cullen (doubtful)? Random Barker half-hour? Davidson? Shaft #2 and give an hour?

/if they aired Davidson, GSN might as well quit life now

It's not beyong the realm of possibility they would air a Barker half-hour. It seems like it would be easier to license than, say, any episode that aired after Barker's hair turned white.

Of course it's still not going to be the same without that wheel. What I would really like to see, though: the Johnny Olsen tribute.

I thought I recalled reading that they didn't do a tribute...just a still shot.

I've got one episode where Olsen's death was mentioned. A segment was added on right after the credits ended.

In that segment, Bob mentioned that they just lost him, and that for the next few weeks they'd be seeing the last episodes he announced. After Bob's remarks, they cut to a still shot of Olsen.