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[clemon79]

starcade, on Sep 22 2003, 09:57 PM, said:

Disagree with that one fully.  You can have a fire in a cave but not have it on a cave wall.

For the THIRD time now, I'm not knocking the judging. I'm knocking the writing. This is simply a badly written category because it DOES create disagreements like this.

Jay Temple, on Sep 23 2003, 08:56 AM, said:

If they had made the following argument, I would have respected it as simply a different standard of judging than what we're used to: The word "smoked" contains the entire word "smoke," but the word "overslept" does not contain the entire word "oversleep."

And I'm sure that IS their argument. Nevertheless, that wasn't how it worked on the Clark Pyramid.

"But Chris, this ISN'T the Clark Pyramid!"

Yeah, they seem pretty hellbent of reminding me of that at every turn...

[byrd62]

clemon79, on Sep 23 2003, 11:43 AM, said:

"...this ISN'T the Clark Pyramid!"

Of course it isn't; it's the Sony Pyramid, and Sony's hired hacks have taken the "Wheel of Fortune" route by requiring exact answers in the Winners Circle round to cover their bottom line at the expense of fairness to the contestants.

[Robert Hutchinson]

byrd62, on Sep 23 2003, 01:51 PM, said:

Sony's hired hacks have taken the "Wheel of Fortune" route by requiring exact answers in the Winners Circle round to cover their bottom line at the expense of fairness to the contestants.

. . . The "Wheel of Fortune" route? Are you talking about not accepting puzzle solves that aren't pronounced correctly? I don't have a problem with that at all.

[WilliamPorygon]

Robert Hutchinson, on Sep 24 2003, 01:40 AM, said:

byrd62, on Sep 23 2003, 01:51 PM, said:

Sony's hired hacks have taken the "Wheel of Fortune" route by requiring exact answers in the Winners Circle round to cover their bottom line at the expense of fairness to the contestants.

. . . The "Wheel of Fortune" route? Are you talking about not accepting puzzle solves that aren't pronounced correctly? I don't have a problem with that at all.

Ugh... don't remind me of what was certainly the worst WOF puzzle last year and possibly ever...

"Freddie Prince Junior, and Sarah Michelle.... Jeller, Gellar, however you say it?!?!"

[Jay Temple]

Robert Hutchinson, on Sep 24 2003, 01:40 AM, said:

byrd62, on Sep 23 2003, 01:51 PM, said:

Sony's hired hacks have taken the "Wheel of Fortune" route by requiring exact answers in the Winners Circle round to cover their bottom line at the expense of fairness to the contestants.

. . . The "Wheel of Fortune" route? Are you talking about not accepting puzzle solves that aren't pronounced correctly? I don't have a problem with that at all.

Agreed.  The nature of different games will dictate a different logical standard.

Since you build money in WoF by calling letters that are in the exact word or phrase, it is logical to require that a contestant solving the puzzle say it exactly right, or at least phonically right.  The definitive example of a contestant failing even the second standard was the woman who said "Gloria Estevan" when the f was already on the board.

In Pyramid, if you communicate "overslept", you have in fact communicated "oversleep."  In the Winners' Cirlce, it's a little more complicated.  "Things on a cave wall" is truly a different thing from "things in a cave."

[Matt Ottinger]

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In the Winners' Cirlce, it's a little more complicated. "Things on a cave wall" is truly a different thing from "things in a cave."

Yes, there are actually very few people arguing that.  The point that's trying to get made is that BECAUSE those two things are so similar-yet-different, the category should never have been written that way.   It's too confusing for a player who's already said "cave" to figure out why he's not getting credit for it.

[zachhoran]

Another damned annoying thing about Pyramid this season is that the audience now sometimes yells out the missed categories in the WC, rather than Donny telling them the category or telling them to turn around and take a look as DIck sometimes did.